Rem vs Grey Talon

Do

• Plan for Knockdown Knockdown 3,200 souls Tier 3TechPress +35s Cooldown +0.1s Cast Delay +2s Stun Delay +0.5s Stun Duration +75 Bonus Health +5% Ability Range +5% Radius — know which tier it sits in so you are not improvising at the shop.
• Know what Rain of Arrows looks like. It is the cooldown this lane revolves around.

Avoid

• Walking to lane on the same path every wave against a hero with Grey Talon's engage range.

Do

• Low durability — a successful gap-close in lane is lethal
• Bow is a slow projectile with travel time; a strafing target is genuinely hard to hit, so his lane damage depends on aim rather than being guaranteed
• Tag Along Tag Along 23m Range5.5s Duration40s Cooldown Rem leaps to a friendly hero and naps alongside them. Damage No damage. Burst heals 15% of missing health, then regenerates over time —… Mobility A 23m leap, but only to a friendly hero — Rem cannot use it to escape into… Defensive Attaching to a durable frontliner is Rem's survival plan; 1 1 AP: -8s cooldown (40s to 32s) 2 2 AP: bonus item range, duration and barrier effectiveness while attached 5 5 AP: bonus spirit power while napping and for a short window after waking 's missing-health burst plus lingering regeneration makes a duo lane harder to burst down, and the heal scales with missing health

Avoid

• Charged Shot pierces the wave, so he farms and pokes with the same button from outside his opponent's range
• Bow falloff runs to about 54m — he can contest soul orbs and harass from range

Do

• Their first real spike is Charged Shot tier 2 — respect it from that point, not before.
• Your spike is ult unlock: Naptime turns Rem from a passive healer into the team's objective-taking tool — a wall-piercing mass mobility strip plus sleep is decisive at urn and mid-boss fights

Avoid

• Taking an even fight against Grey Talon on their spike timing when you could take the same fight ten minutes later on yours.

Do

• Watch for Rain of Arrows. Knockdown is the direct answer — it pulls him out of the air and stuns him, and he has no second escape
• Dive him — he has the lowest durability in the group and only one escape; Phantom Strike Phantom Strike 6,400 souls Tier 4ArmorPress +35s Cooldown +0.35s Cast Delay +8 Spirit Power +15% Weapon Damage +40% Move Speed +3s Slow Duration , Haze Smoke Bomb Smoke Bomb 8s Duration33s Cooldown Vanishes from sight and gains bonus sprint speed. Mobility significant sprint speed bonus while active; Defensive an escape — at tier 3 it also purges non-ultimate debuffs and grants 50%… 1 grants 2 ability charges 2 removes non-ultimate debuffs on cast and grants 50% bullet lifesteal for 5 seconds approach, or Abrams charge kills him outright

Avoid

• Spending your own escape before Rain of Arrows is on cooldown.

• Rain of Arrows Ability 2

  Only a control tool once Grey Talon has paid for it: tier-1 upgrade adds roughly a 24% movement slow to his arrows while airborne.

  • Knockdown is the direct answer — it pulls him out of the air and stuns him, and he has no second escape
  • While gliding he cannot dodge; any rapid-fire hero (Haze, Infernus, Ivy, Wraith) simply out-damages him mid-air
  • Step under cover or into a building — the glide gives him no ability to change angle quickly
• Spirit Snare Spirit Snare 34s Cooldown Throws down a trap that arms after a short delay and triggers when an enemy enters its radius, applying Curse and a movement slow. Crowd Control Curse (silence + disarm + item lockout + interrupt) plus a movement slow; Damage minimal direct damage; Defensive the primary anti-dive tool — placed at his own feet or on the approach, it… 1 -20s cooldown 2 applies -15% Bullet Resist for 10 seconds 5 +1s Curse duration and +1.5m radius Ability 3

  A second source of hard control: curse (Silence + Disarm + item lockout + interrupt) plus a movement slow.

  • It has an arming delay and a visible model — watch the ground on approach routes and around soul orbs and simply walk around it
  • Pre-cast Unstoppable Unstoppable 6,400 souls Tier 4ArmorInstantCast +60s Cooldown +5.5s Duration +125 Bonus Health +25% Debuff Resist Builds from Debuff Reducer BEFORE contact; once Curse lands you cannot activate items at all
  • Force the trap by sending a durable body (Abrams, Kelvin, Ivy in Stone Form Stone Form 3s Duration40s Cooldown Turns Ivy into impervious stone and slams her into the ground, stunning and damaging nearby enemies and healing her for a portion of her maximum health. Crowd Control area stun on landing; tier 3 extends the stun duration Damage about 75 at base spirit power (deadlock.one); Mobility a downward slam — it repositions her vertically, especially when combined… 1 -25s cooldown 2 increased stun duration and improved damage scaling ) through the approach first, then follow with the carry
• Guided Owl Guided Owl 125s Cooldown After a short cast, Grey Talon takes control of a spirit owl and flies it across the map; Crowd Control area stun on detonation Damage about 230 at base spirit power (deadlock.one) Mobility none for Grey Talon — in fact he is locked in place 1 +85 damage 2 -40s cooldown 5 instantly kills enemies below about 22% health and grants permanent Spirit Power per… Ultimate

  Grey Talon's fight-ender: area Stun on detonation.

  • Grey Talon is a stationary, silent statue for roughly 1.5s of cast plus the whole flight — that is a window to kill him
  • The owl is a controllable but visible projectile; break line of sight around a corner or drop off a ledge as it approaches
  • Never sit below about 22% health in the open once he has tier 3 — that is an unavoidable execute, not a dodgeable ability

1. 1 Rain of Arrows

   Rain of Arrows first — it is his only escape. Show a fake commit, make him launch, then engage on the landing when he has neither the glide nor the evasion

2. 2 Spirit Snare

   Spirit Snare second: force it with a durable body walking the obvious approach lane, since the Curse is what actually stops your dive

3. 3 Guided Owl

   Guided Owl is worth baiting only when you can punish the cast — pull him into using it on a target with Ethereal Shift Ethereal Shift 6,400 souls Tier 4TechInstantCast +37s Cooldown +4s Duration +5s Buff Duration +30% Spirit Resist +20 Spirit Power or full health, then kill him during the flight

• Very low health and no damage mitigation — he dies to any committed dive Strong evidence
• Everything meaningful in his kit has a visible cast tell (charge draw, snare arming, 1.5s owl cast) Strong evidence
• Airborne during Rain of Arrows means Knockdown counters both his escape and his damage window at once Strong evidence

• A Charged Shot hits your whole wave and you behind it, from roughly 50m, and at tier 3 it can bounce off a wall to reach you behind an angle Strong evidence
• Spirit Snare's Curse silences, disarms and blocks item use — if you step on it you cannot press Dispel Magic Dispel Magic 3,200 souls Tier 3ArmorInstantCast +45s Cooldown +10% Spirit Resist +3s Buff Duration +250 Heal Amount , Unstoppable or Warp Stone Warp Stone 3,200 souls Tier 3ArmorInstantCast +16s Cooldown +30% Bullet Resist +6s Buff Duration to get out Strong evidence
• Guided Owl at tier 3 executes anyone under about 22% health anywhere on the map; retreating at low health is not actually safe Strong evidence
• Rain of Arrows plus multishot from directly above means your cover on the ground is worth nothing Strong evidence
• Spirit Snare tier 2's -15% Bullet Resist turns his trap into a damage amp for his entire team's follow-up Strong evidence
• Grey Talon can Silence, which means your escape is only real if it is already active. Pre-empt rather than react: if you are walking into a position where the Silence lands, your defensive cooldown should be spent getting out of that position, not saved for after. Strong evidence

• Dive him — he has the lowest durability in the group and only one escape; Phantom Strike, Haze Smoke Bomb approach, or Abrams charge kills him outright Strong evidence
• Buy Knockdown specifically for Rain of Arrows: it drops him out of the glide and stuns him, removing his escape and his damage window simultaneously Strong evidence
• Pre-activate Unstoppable BEFORE approaching a trapped choke, because Spirit Snare's Curse blocks item activation after it lands Strong evidence
• Strafe laterally against Charged Shot and Guided Owl — both are slow projectiles with travel time Strong evidence
• Kill him during the roughly 1.5s Guided Owl cast; he is rooted and defenceless for the full duration plus the flight Strong evidence
• Fight in enclosed interiors and tunnels where his 54m falloff advantage and his vertical glide are both worthless Strong evidence

• Roughly 1.5s of Guided Owl cast plus the entire owl flight — he is rooted, looking elsewhere, and cannot defend himself Strong evidence
• The whole Rain of Arrows glide against any rapid-fire gun or against Knockdown — he cannot change direction Strong evidence
• While drawing Charged Shot, where he is slowed and committed to a firing line Strong evidence
• The moment after Spirit Snare is placed and before it arms — the trap does nothing during the arming delay Strong evidence
• Reload windows: at roughly 1.67 shots per second, a missed arrow is a long dead interval where he has no output at all Strong evidence

• You are not a close-range hero forced to walk them down, which makes this lane a range-band problem rather than an approach problem. There is a band where your damage is real and theirs is still comfortable — find it and hold it, because stepping back one band concedes the whole wave and stepping forward one gives them the free trade. Your orb contests should happen from that band, which means positioning before the trooper dies rather than walking in to secure. Strategic
• Grey Talon's chip damage is not primarily about your health bar in lane — it is about your map access. Every point of damage they land resets a 3-second zipline lockout, so a hero who can touch you once every two seconds has effectively removed the zipline from your game. Plan rotations from behind cover with a clean gap, and when you intend to leave lane, leave before you are being shot at rather than because you are. Strong evidence
• Grey Talon will shove the wave into your Guardian to push you off souls, and you are not fast enough to walk around it. The thing to protect is the floating orb — the ground orb drops and cannot be denied, so half your income is safe no matter what they do, and the contest is only ever over the other 50. Position on your Guardian's side of the wave so you are already in range of the floating orbs when they pop, and give up the forward orbs rather than crossing for them. Strategic

• Your kit is built around lockdown and that is worth less on the Mid Boss than on Grey Talon — it carries 35% Debuff Resist as of 03-06-2026, so your disables run roughly two-thirds as long on it. Plan the take around damage and positioning rather than a CC chain, and spend the chain on Grey Talon if they contest. The payoff is worth the trip: 3,000 souls + 50 per minute, two permanent buffs each, and a Rejuvenator crystal giving up to three single-use revives that return a player at full health after 3 seconds, for 3 minutes. Documented

• Fight Grey Talon under cover — indoors, under walkways, inside stairwells. Taking away the vertical axis removes most of their kit's value before you spend a single item slot on it. Strategic
• Riding a zipline in Grey Talon's line of sight is worse than walking. Enemy hero damage while you are riding knocks you off for 15% of your max health, a 2.5-second Stun and a fall — for a hero with your health pool that is most of a death handed over for free. You gain knockoff immunity only after 3 consecutive seconds of riding, signalled by a blue particle effect, so the dangerous part is the first three seconds. Mount out of their sight line, not near it. Documented
• Grey Talon wins by choosing where the fight happens. Take your position before the zoning goes down, not after — once the area is committed you are fighting on their terms, and walking in to contest it is exactly the mistake the kit is built to farm. Strategic

• Grey Talon fights from the air, which is exactly what Knockdown exists for: it applies +100% gravity to an airborne target (raised from +50% in March 2026) and its Stun scales with altitude, up to about +1.5s at 30m. The higher they commit, the harder the punish — and Debuff Resist will not shorten that Stun for them. Documented
• Knockdown (spirit T3) — Buy whenever an enemy fights from the sky — it answers flying and airborne heroes and channelled aerial ultimates. What you are answering here: Grey Talon's Rain of Arrows. Documented
• Phantom Strike (vitality T4) — Buy to catch flying or long-range heroes who otherwise never enter your range, and to Disarm a gun carry mid-burst. What you are answering here: Grey Talon's Rain of Arrows. Documented
• Debuff Reducer Debuff Reducer 1,600 souls Tier 2ArmorPassive +25% Debuff Resist +90 Bonus Health (vitality T2) — Grey Talon creates that through Grey Talon's Guided Owl. The standard early buy when the enemy team chains crowd control; it is also the component for Spellbreaker Spellbreaker 6,400 souls Tier 4ArmorPassive +9s Cooldown +18% Spirit Resist +25% Debuff Resist +175 Damage Threshold +65% Spirit Damage Reduction +90 Bonus Health Builds from Debuff Reducer and Unstoppable. Documented

• The instinct here is to buy Dispel Magic as your answer to Grey Talon and then find it greyed out at the exact moment you need it. Dispel Magic cannot be cast while you are stunned or asleep, and it cannot remove a Stun at all — it purges what comes with the Stun, not the Stun itself. Against Grey Talon the item you actually want is the pre-cast kind (Unstoppable, which also cannot be activated once you are already stunned) or the automatic kind (Indomitable Indomitable 6,400 souls Tier 4ArmorPassive +55s Cooldown +10s Duration +10% Bullet Resist +10% Spirit Resist +20s Cooldown On Apply +2 Out of Combat Regen Builds from Reactive Barrier , which cleanses the next Hard CC with no input from you). Documented
• The losing pattern against Grey Talon is deciding to leave, walking to the zipline and finding you cannot attach. Any damage from an enemy hero or objective blocks zipline attachment for 3 seconds, and Grey Talon has the chip range to keep that 3-second timer rolling indefinitely. Break line of sight first, wait out the lockout, then attach — do not walk to the rope while still taking fire. Documented
• The specific error is walking into Grey Talon's area denial after it is already down, because your team is in there and you feel late. You are slow enough that entering a committed zone is a one-way decision — you will be inside it for its full duration, not for the two seconds you intended. Arrive before the zone or arrive from the other side of it; arriving into it is how this matchup is lost even when your team wins the fight. Strategic